Thrice is amazing.
I got The Alchemy Index (all four volumes) the other day at Hot Topic...and I am definitely obsessed now. I liked them before, but now I love them.
I think all of the songs are amazing, but my most favorite ones are as follows:
Firebreather, Burn The Fleet, Digital Sea, Lost Continent, The Whaler, Broken Lungs, The Sky Is Falling, A Song For Milly Michaelson, Silver Wings, Moving Mountains, The Lion And The Wolf, Come All You Weary
I'd probably have to say that my favorite is The Lion and the Wolf. I'm going to figure out how to play it on the piano. There's got to be a super deep meaning behind it. Not exactly sure what it is yet, but I know it's deep. I have some ideas...but I'm not exactly sure.
Lyrics: (you can listen to the song here http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ic4TLheisFc)
The lion's outside of your door, the wolf's in your bed. The lion's claws are sharpened for war, the wolf's teeth are red. What a monstrous sight he makes mocking man's best friend. Both the wolf and lion crave the same thing in the end. The lion's outside of your door, the wolf's in your bed. The wolf he howls, the lion does roar, the wolf lets him in. The lion runs in through the door, the real fun begins. As they both rush upon you and rip open your flesh. The lion eats his fill and then the wolf cleans up the mess. The lion's outside of your door, the wolf's in your bed. The lion's outside of your door, the wolf's in your bed.
What do you think it means?
I've heard some really great ideas about it.
Here's some that I think are the best.
Someone said that the lion represents temptation or something along those lines outside of the body, and the wolf is your conscience or demons or however you want to look at it from inside your head. The lion is outside always trying to find a way in, and when the wolf is loud and strong (in your head) it opens the door (you justify), satisfying the temptation. Then you after having fun or however you put it with the temptation or lion, the wolf sticks around and reminds you how you messed up.
This person also says that the wolf is a double meaning for the devil and here is why. "Mocking man's best friend." Man's best friend is Jesus, our savior, redeemer, etc. The devil tries to copy God at times, and this is what Dustin could've meant by mocking.
Someone else said that the wolf is the person. The lion's temptation. The wolf lets him in, the lion just eats up, and the wolf has to clear everything up.
Another person said that the line "mocking man's best friend" is in fact, referring to a dog because 1.) Jesus isn't you best friend, as that would imply He is your equal, and the Bible states He is man's King, and 2.) a dog and wolf are technically the same species. The classic character of the wolf is evil and undermining, so it makes sense that in this song it is saying that the wolf is hiding among you posing as a dog.
One other individual said that they see the lion as satin or evil and the wolf as God. The lion wants to get in and corrupt you but can't because the wolf won't let him in. "The wolfs teeth are red" this means that the wolf being God has conquered evil before. The wolf lets the lion in because God does test us to see if we can beat evil too. "mocking man's best friend" God is pretending to be a dog. "In the end" both the lion and the wolf want your soul. So when the lion gets in he beats down on the person but doesn't kill him. Then "the wolf cleans up the mess". meaning that he saves the person and the story starts over.
And finally, someone else said (I'll just quote it because it'd take too long to change and paraphrase) "Okay, here's what I have managed to piece together. First of all, I think it would be silly to just ignore the fact that this IS a fable by Aesop. That can't simply be coincidence, as Dustin is very well read. But it seems to me, that the Wolf represents pride in the fable, and the Lion is greed. I read another version or something of The Lion and the Wolf and it talks about the Wolf thinking that he is as good as the Lion and as powerful, and then the Lion shows up and kills him.
I do NOT think that the Wolf represents God in the least, because the Wolf is not presented in any sort of good light, and God would not mock, or rip open our flesh.
The line that talks about "mocking man's best friend" can be interpreted a couple of different ways, and I think both are good and should be applied at the same time. First, the Wolf himself mocks man's best friend by being of the canine family, but not as safe as a dog. This view has been pointed out and discussed already. Another thing that makes sense to me is that, in the fable, the Lion teases the Wolf in the end, and mocks him for saying that the Sheep was his, when, in fact, it was not, and the Lion knows it.
So, if the Wolf represents greed, then how does that apply to letting the Lion in? Well, Dustin is an AVID C.S. Lewis fan, and C.S. Lewis talks quite a bit about how Pride is the essential vice, the sin that can lead to all other sins. So, call the Lion whatever you will, but Pride will inevitably lead to him, and together they will destroy you. At least that all seems to make sense to me."
I personally think that the line "mocking man's best friend" is surely referring to the parallels between a wolf and a dog. While a dog is man's best friend, a wolf is a grotesque distortion, sharing a similar form but is wild, bloodstained and ravenous. I also don't think that the wolf is God.
Everything else I haven't decided on yet.
All of that to say, what do you think it means?
Saturday, May 3, 2008
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hmm.. I don't really know. I'd have to think about that. i really think that songs have different meanings to different people. if it had the same meaning to everyone.. well, that would be just boring.
hmmmm-- those are really interesting lyrics.
I don't think the wolf is God either though perhaps the Lion is God and the wolf is the devil.
I mean,
-God is a warrior "claws are sharpened for war"
-Lion imagery is linked to Christ
-the mocking line instantly made me think of Satan trying to be God or like God
-both craving the same thing made me think of both God and the Devil wanting your soul
-the lion outside the door made me think of the verse about Christ standing at the door knocking
but "As they both rush upon you and rip open your flesh. The lion eats his fill and then the wolf cleans up the mess." that throws kind of a kink in it too because that action by the lion doesn't seem too divine to me. hmmm, it's an interesting question for sure!
(and about Agape, yes, "amazing" is pretty much the best word to describe it :)
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